tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post5301330605341969114..comments2023-10-02T07:06:06.927-04:00Comments on Carol McClain: Dutch Schultz: A Malone AcquittalCarol McClainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14225606888246883508noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-53579499362640776412022-12-08T19:06:08.246-05:002022-12-08T19:06:08.246-05:00Condre Hall in Huntington Long island was schutz&#...Condre Hall in Huntington Long island was schutz'es hide out in the 1930s. thats where his treasure is in the tunnels. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-81118445436098579792020-06-18T02:20:01.849-04:002020-06-18T02:20:01.849-04:00i think its called ""called Coindre Hall...i think its called ""called Coindre Hall"" in Huntington, Long Island >(not canders hall) they had a Dutch Schultz boot leggers party night their not to long ago >> Great Gatsby kind of thing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-44482977937816029642019-12-31T11:14:58.400-05:002019-12-31T11:14:58.400-05:00Ross, thank you for all of the info. I've used...Ross, thank you for all of the info. I've used fultonhistory for many years & live near the Ward House. Actually, the local historical society dismisses the idea of a tunnel between buildings. The trial in Malone is of particular interest to me because my grandfather was an NYPD detective who testified. I hope this site is still being followed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-17528323500806206492017-05-14T21:12:00.283-04:002017-05-14T21:12:00.283-04:00I'm unfamiliar with Schultz in East Haddam.I'm unfamiliar with Schultz in East Haddam.Carol McClainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14225606888246883508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-78027016951297915462017-05-14T21:11:26.262-04:002017-05-14T21:11:26.262-04:00I agree. They need to make the Flanagan a museum a...I agree. They need to make the Flanagan a museum about bootlegging and Malone's history in the Shultz dramaCarol McClainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14225606888246883508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-61254815959425043792017-05-14T20:14:37.820-04:002017-05-14T20:14:37.820-04:00I find the Gelston House to be the most interestin...I find the Gelston House to be the most interesting and plausible for finding Dutch Schultz's lost treasure. You have the CT River few feet away for bringing in boot legg and whiskey from up North in Canada. I hope to see a news article done soon on East Haddam and Dutch Schultz.orvile renslaterhttp://lemirty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-62131828308862285402017-05-12T22:45:33.444-04:002017-05-12T22:45:33.444-04:00hi you need to find out about a man called Larry F...hi you need to find out about a man called Larry Fay and who killed Larry Fay. You also need to find out where Larry Fay (Dutch Schultz Associate) is buried. You might be quite surprised where Larry Fay is buried and and>>> a few who stared down the barrel of Schultz's 45!! Very interesting i can assure you. To the poster Hotel Flannagan yes it needs to be restored Malone needs to fix her up and turn it into a prohibition museum wedding reception function building!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-8760481368856463722017-05-12T20:01:23.057-04:002017-05-12T20:01:23.057-04:00THEY NEED TO FIX UP THE HOTEL DUTCH SCHULTZ STAYED...THEY NEED TO FIX UP THE HOTEL DUTCH SCHULTZ STAYED IN MALONE NEW YORK IT'S A NATIONAL TREASURE. I AM GOING TO VISIT BRIDGEPORT CONNECTICUT AND LOOK AT THESE TWO MOVIE THEATERS DUTCH SCHULTZ WENT TO LOOK AT MOVIES ONE I KNOW IS CALLED THE POLI. ALSO I AM GOING TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE AND CONTACT NEW JERSEY PARANORMAL INC NJP TO HAVE SAYONCE IN MOODUS CT IN REGARD TO THE MOTEL GELSTON HOME AND FIND OUT EXCATLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH DUTCH SCHULTZ STAY AT THAT PLACE. I HEARD THAT COINDRE HALL IN HUNTINGTON, LONG ISLAND WILL BE HAVING ANOTHER DUTCH SCHULTZ BOOT LEGGARS PARTY TO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-67579300489301310662017-05-09T11:33:23.985-04:002017-05-09T11:33:23.985-04:00Tax evasion held lighter penalty than all his othe...Tax evasion held lighter penalty than all his other interests.Carol McClainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14225606888246883508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-38821550817397557202017-05-09T11:07:40.589-04:002017-05-09T11:07:40.589-04:00The accounts by old-timers statewide (and also in ...The accounts by old-timers statewide (and also in CT), as passed on by locals, could prove useful -- IF care is taken to corroborate with the local accounts best gleaned from the amazing "fultonhistory.com" For example, if you search "Dutch Schultz" and "hideout", you'll find some stories. "Mountain hideout", "hiding place" etc. My (then) young daughter and I tracked the chest to Norwalk, CT, where he had it until discovered by the press hiding there (with permission of the US Attorney). (The wonderful owner there, Vivian, had found where the rectangular hole had been covered by a metal sheet in the garden; she knew the stories because she was friends with the realtor's granddaughter). <br /><br />Dutch turned in his keys to Mrs. Lyman Bracken on April 11. He didn't arrive to the Hotel Syracuse until April 15. So he re-hid the chest somewhere in-between. <br /><br />He had a secret residence at Tuckahoe (a suburb of Yonkers) -- where his children Ann and John would later go to high school. It is now a co-ed dorm, Koepchen Hall at Corncordia College. There was a tunnel to Ward House across the street that was filled in. <br /><br />Wherever you find he was living, look for there to be a filled-in tunnel. :0) For example, there was a tunnel filed in at the Petrilli residence in Newburgh, leading to the North Plank Tavern. There is a bookcase at the residence large enough to hide a person, if not a chest. But the chest is no longer there. <br /><br />Much of what is in the chest is commercial paper that has not yet been redeemed -- the reward for turning it in to the FBI and IRS, alone, would be worth millions.<br /><br />I am from Syracuse. Perhaps the clerk in Malone would know where to find the Malone trial records. In a court case, he lists the specific addresses in Troy, which I otherwise don't know.Rossnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-23316281116707870262017-05-09T10:48:44.691-04:002017-05-09T10:48:44.691-04:00errata -
"Like Dutch in late November 1935,...errata - <br /> "Like Dutch in late November 1935, they may have feared being killed by determined G-Men." I meant late November 1934. That was when Dutch suddenly showed up in Albany and turned himself in. His tax attorney, Noonan, says he did not say where he had last been staying. He says Dutch showed up, introduced himself, and then they went promptly over to surrender.Rossnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-1096278814841113792017-05-09T10:31:15.158-04:002017-05-09T10:31:15.158-04:00Your knowledge of Schultz is amazing. I mostly kno...Your knowledge of Schultz is amazing. I mostly know his Malone connection because that's my "hometown" and his trial had been moved there.<br />Malone is where I have most of my esoteric info.Carol McClainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14225606888246883508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-40604266085594842872017-05-09T10:22:01.811-04:002017-05-09T10:22:01.811-04:00I don't know my Long Island geography -- and h...I don't know my Long Island geography -- and haven't yet googled -- but am intrigued by the poster's reference to Canders Hall. <br /><br />Dutch did stay at William K. Vanderbilt's Oakdale in the summer of 1934. One of the buildings was rented in the name of his chauffeur and trusted lieutenant, Lawrence Carney. <br /><br />Then by early November 1934, he was up in Newburgh, NY. He was seen horseback riding. He would have been staying at Petrilli's place not far from the North Plank Tavern (to which there was a tunnel). It was fortified in 1932.<br /><br />Then, I believe, 3-4 miles Northwest of Corinth, NY. <br /><br />In late January 1935, I believe he was staying at Hendrick Hendrickson Hotel (which I recall to have been in Troy). In February 1935, he was at 4th and Congress St. in Troy, also in Lansingburgh (in northern Troy) and also on Troy's East side, I believe. At one point in February he was living in Troy with his common law wife Frances.<br /><br />He stayed at Harmony Hotel in Cohoes long enough to famously kill Jules Martin. Then the police made him leave Troy. He was unsuccessful in having Tammany Hall getting the police to lay off in Troy after Martin's murder. <br /><br />The Albany political boss McConnell similarly did not want to Dutch in Albany. At one point, the NYC Police Commissioner said that after Newburgh, Dutch went to a "row of cottages" in Lake George. <br /><br />His cronies, also indicted with him, were Frank Ahearn and Henry Stevens, and they were later seen in early 1935 in Queensbury and Fort Edward. They turned themselves in at Glens Falls in February 1935. I believe they turned themselves in when federal men were gathering in the mountains to find them. Like Dutch in late November 1935, they may have feared being killed by determined G-Men. (For example, two days before Dutch turned himself in, the federal men had killed Baby Face Nelson). And two federal men had just been killed in Chicago, and there was a shoot to kill order had issued. So Dutch was wise in turning himself in at Albany in late November. <br /><br />Dutch then was in Norwalk CT in early April on Marion Ave. He was living with his 5-month pregnant wife Frances. She was pregnant with John; and had given birth to Ann at Oakdale on Long Island the previous summer.<br /><br />Then at the Hotel Syracuse, NY for his tax evasion trial. Then of course Malone, back to Syracuse and onward to Bridgeport.<br /><br />He moved on to the Bridgeport Hotel in Bridgeport by August 7, 1935. <br /><br />The widespread discussion that he was in Phoenicia in 1935 appears to have been mistaken -- and stemmed from a mistaken reporting in 1968 in a treasure writer that then was picked up by later well-meaning folks interested in folklore. Now with new technology, we can trace his whereabouts using the incredible resource of fultonhistory.com and boolean searching. Dutch was active in the Catskills a couple years prior to that -- not in 1935 when he and Lulu Rosenkrantz, according to court testimony, collected and his his money in the chest. In fact, the State Troopers headquarterd in barracks "G" named the specific 11 or 13 New York Counties that he was persona non grata.Rossnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-39290169528136619112017-04-27T10:12:38.690-04:002017-04-27T10:12:38.690-04:00My family lives near Huntington. Would love to che...My family lives near Huntington. Would love to check out Canders Hall.Carol McClainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14225606888246883508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-40383157305570862482017-04-27T01:10:23.467-04:002017-04-27T01:10:23.467-04:00From Robert Barthomlews UK book another one Dutch ...From Robert Barthomlews UK book another one Dutch schultz's speak easys was the Glenmere Manor now mansion in Chester New York apparently as the story goes Schultz would hide some of his booze at The Lanmark Inn Warwick, New York to be served later at speakeasy Glenmere Mansion Chester. I'll be checking out this Dutch Schultz speakeasy in October which i believe is the month Schultz was gunned down in New jersey. His death at the Chop House was a bloody mess blood everywhere. The treasure of the Dutchman is still at large. I feel it is buried at this place called Canders Hall in Huntindon, Long Island.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-40546637712459849492017-03-22T19:50:58.193-04:002017-03-22T19:50:58.193-04:00Dedicated to my favorite prohibition gangster Dutc...Dedicated to my favorite prohibition gangster Dutch Schultz you tube Steve Miller Band go on take the money run video """RIP""" Dutch Schultz Bronx Beer BaronAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-57121431276255195942017-03-22T19:31:39.052-04:002017-03-22T19:31:39.052-04:00i think the focal point here is the gelston house ...i think the focal point here is the gelston house East Haddam Connecticut, dutch schultzs south bound liquor storage brothel wharehouse. Running booze from Canada to Manhattan via schooner or steam ship. Then Coindre Hall to bring in north bound cuban cigars Cuban Rum and whiskey and Moon shine from the carolinas Virginia. I guess the dutch shcultz flaggenhammers filthy dirty buried loot is located somewhere in the Gelston House East Haddam CT or Coindre Hall. Schultz once said "i have more bitches than con edisons got switches." Legs Diamond Machine gun kelly pretty boy floy ma barker an her boys they all hung out at that speakeasey the Gelston House east haddam CT. They serve saspirilla@gelston house with machine guns on the glasses for 25 cents like they did during prohibition. hope to see dirty gurdy and her dance hall girls from klondyke kates up north.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-60601071209500185002013-10-31T15:11:16.744-04:002013-10-31T15:11:16.744-04:00I'd love to dig in my back yard and find it. I...I'd love to dig in my back yard and find it. I don't live too far from the Hotel Flannagan or the court house/jail. Just down the road is where they dumped whiskey during prohibition. To me,sounds like that treasure could be in my yard!Carol McClainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14225606888246883508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5466191853251113817.post-79008451060294096072013-10-31T11:27:17.218-04:002013-10-31T11:27:17.218-04:00The hidden treasure in this story would fascinate ...The hidden treasure in this story would fascinate my son who loved a computer game where you searched for sunken ships (actual historical wrecks) and worked to discover any treasure.TNealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023921664255542422noreply@blogger.com